I’ve had a lot of involvement especially with the Minnesota Defense Lawyer Association in which goes way back to when I first started practicing law in 1984. I’ve been the cochair of their law improvement committee, which is involved in the Minnesota legislature monitoring it and helping to try to create a level playing field for litigants in Minnesota and I’ve been on that committee for over 25 years. At one point, I was president of the Defense Lawyer Association, I’m also involved in some other community things including we have, I have a homeowners association where I live I was, unfortunately, become president of that having to deal with neighbor’s issues. But it’s fun; we’ve had a good time.