When I look at life experiences, I went to law school as a second choice that wasn’t going to be my first career. And so when I was in law school I thought boy, where am I going with this? You’ve seen the TV lawyers and what the issues are with them but I had a friend and together we decided to do the trial competition at law school. And then I found what I really like to do I like litigation and it was fun. We ended up winning the trial competition, we went on to a national competition, won the regionals in a national competition and ultimately, went on to the national competition where we ended up about third in the nation. And it was a great experience, a lot of individual training, you got to meat lawyers and judges from all across the country as part of that and I knew I had found my niche at that point.